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[bobemm]

Bush presses House on surveillance bill

This is really bothering me. Especially the retroactive immunity for telecoms. If they hadn't done anything illegal, why would this be necessary? I'm sure the reply would be "9/11 changed everything", but that's bullshit. Nobody is above the law, least of all the people that are supposed to enforce it. 9/11 did not change that.

terrorists are planning new attacks on our country ... that will make Sept. 11 pale by comparison

I smell fearmongering! I have no doubt that this is true, but it has always been true. And your cat is planning to poop in your shoes, and your neighbor is thinking of different ways he could fuck your wife. We don't let these things consume us, and we can't. As I've said before, more people die from heart disease every couple of days than died in 9/11 over 6 years ago. Get a grip!

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[gloriapatch.livejournal.com]

As I've said before, more people die from heart disease every couple of days than died in 9/11 over 6 years ago. Get a grip!

Right on!

[slumberjack.livejournal.com]

OMG WTH, DO YOU HATE MURKA OR SOMETHING?

[chucknoblet.livejournal.com]

omg no!!!! wait, what? do I????????

[qnetter]

Nobody is above the law... but laws change.

Normally, when an act is changed to make an act legal, we're all over the idea of making it apply retroactively. This time, not so much.

[chucknoblet.livejournal.com]

Indeed. In any case, if the intent were to change the law to make the act legal, that would be one thing. But encoding protection against legal action (without actually changing the legality of the activities in question) is something else entirely imho.

[qnetter]

But the law does indeed give that power to the executive going forward.

[chucknoblet.livejournal.com]

Yeah, vomit :(

[doombeast.livejournal.com]

VERIZON SPIED ON MY TEXT MESSAGES AND KNOWS WHAT TOPPINGS I ORDERED ON MY PIZZAS AND SOON NIGHTMARE PRESIDENT BUSHITLER WILL TOO NOWHERE2RUN NOWHERE2HIDE

[chucknoblet.livejournal.com]

Sigh. I suppose if you don't care about your rights, I don't care about your rights either. But I can still care about mine :)

[markormarky.livejournal.com]

it's more concerning what the country is about, which is freedom and not fascism, as opposed to your pizza (which is a joke i suppose in any case, but you make your point clear with it). sometimes those of us with the ability to do so see the bigger picture, and not just how everything is about us personally.

supposedly we are in the middle east "fighting" against this kind of governance, and i thought you claim to support that fight?

if laws were broken here, and those who broke the laws (Bush and the telecompanies in tandem) are given a free pass, this country no longer is about the idea that no man is above the law, a concept we went through an impeachment proceeding to test just a few years ago. Now those same people who pushed for that want to look the other way when it comes to Bush.

Pathetic.

[markormarky.livejournal.com]

Nobody is above the law

The Bush admin. has radically altered this concept, bud. We both know it.

[chucknoblet.livejournal.com]

We both know it.

I'm perfectly comfortable pretending otherwise ^_^

[ludomancer.livejournal.com]

For realsies.

If this is truly the life-or-death clash between civilizations that they claim, then it's their patriotic duty to defend us by catching and convicting the bad guys through the proper channels.

Fighting thuggery as a concept by means of thuggery is kind of lol.

[chucknoblet.livejournal.com]

I would think it was hilaaarious if they didn't appear to be getting away with it so handily >:O

[lingostarr.livejournal.com]

fear mongering is an effective tool to motivate the masses to do what you want. Of course, one could imagine what the consequences would be if they didn't convince people to overlook some aspects of the law or change it.

Although there are no laws being bent and spindled here, but I think Democrats use fear mongering to get people to fear not getting Health services and try to get universal health care in to law. Not having healthcare means "little sally can't fall down because she won't get helped at the hospital unless she is insured."

[lingostarr.livejournal.com]

Telecom companies issued info to most of its customers that records could be handed over to the gov't. People had the right to discontinue services at anytime. Some companies also offered to discontinue services with no term fee.

Besides I doubt if any of your rights were violated. No one in the FBI/gov't saw the naked pix you keep sending me. :D Stop Sending me naked pix!

As a socialist I would think you would welcome the community safety as the expense of individual rights.