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More states shred bills for awful medical errors

“You shouldn’t expect to be set on fire, for instance,” he said. “This should never happen.”

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Date: 2008-08-13 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lingostarr.livejournal.com
There two things I need to say here. 1)This kind post tells me I cannot believe you are for Universal Healthcare. Under that system I guess you'll pay for the screw up(s) regardless. Also, if the gov't screws up they normally give themselves immunity, so I don't think you'll be sewing them anytime soon. Since when has the gov't been good at anything other that making Wars, and maybe helping people with education?? If you think that these types of screw ups are gunna stop in Universal coverage system, that's not gunna happen. they normally increase from what I have seen in the VA hospital( closest thing to universal coverage today).

2) So Ethan told me that someone in Beaumont hospital recently got an 86 year old man in for testicular cancer. They were going to remove his testicals. Well, for some reason he canceled his surgery but it was never canceled on the schedule. So the next one in line for surgery was 16 year male for something else. Well the doctor ended up removing the 16 year old's testicals and then after he was done, realized that his paitent wasn't 86 years old and wondered why he was scheduled to remove a 16 year old's balls. He immediately called the legal team. I dunno how much was given/offered for disaster, but I am sure it wasn't enough. Now I am sure that the teen is humilated, has go on hormones, will never have any kids, and is humilated, yes I said that twice

Date: 2008-08-13 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chucknoblet.livejournal.com
1) Whoa there mister!!!! I wouldn't say universal coverage would be perfect. There would definitely be flaws, and some things would be worse than they are with the current system. But the benefits to society as a whole would outweigh the costs to society.

2) That is very sad :(

Date: 2008-08-13 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lingostarr.livejournal.com
Ha ha, it wasn't to be an attack, it is just this kinda thing bothers me, and then people think universal health system is better. I disagree about the benefits to society. I would be for it if people used the health system responsibly rather than abusing it. but that is a conversation for a different time.


yes, it was sad.

Date: 2008-08-13 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chucknoblet.livejournal.com
I will figure out how to subliminally reprogram you. You will be one of us.

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Date: 2008-08-13 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sourdick.livejournal.com
Did not read the article, your medical system boggles my mind. Posting because of horrible attempt at Photoshop.

Date: 2008-08-13 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lingostarr.livejournal.com
our health system isn't that hard. It's like yours only with a million more hospitals, little to no waiting lists for surgeries, MRIs, and other procedures, and owned by the "evil capitalists" :D

Date: 2008-08-13 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chucknoblet.livejournal.com
a million more hospitals, little to no waiting lists for surgeries, MRIs, and other procedures

...for people who can afford it :-D

This highlights the fundamental difference between Democrats and Republicans. Democrats ask "what will be an optimal balance considering everybody involved", Republicans ask "what works best for ***ME*** (and if they're lucky, other people like me)".

Date: 2008-08-13 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lingostarr.livejournal.com
if you can afford it? I know for a fact that anyone can go into a hospital and get care regardless of payment. the wait if any isn't based on ability to pay.

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Date: 2008-08-13 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fj.livejournal.com
You're really good at trolling. I almost fell for it.

Date: 2008-08-13 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chucknoblet.livejournal.com
no he's serious :) Ryan meet FJ, FJ meet Ryan.

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Date: 2008-08-13 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chucknoblet.livejournal.com
ALSO, some of our best hospitals are not owned by the evil capitalists, they are owned by public universities.

Date: 2008-08-13 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lingostarr.livejournal.com
hmm good point. then again they act just like any other hospital. they are just also used for trianing grounds for medical advancements which in the capitalist's realm rakes in a shit ton of money.

Date: 2008-08-13 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sourdick.livejournal.com
I didnt say I didnt understand it, it boggles my mind because its so dumb.

My dads had two heart attacks, and was treated fine. I had my gallbladder removed, and it took just a couple of weeks to get a surgery date. I think the idea of gigantic DECADES LONG WAIT TIMES in Canada is greatly exaggerated by Americans.

Date: 2008-08-13 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chucknoblet.livejournal.com
Particularly my idol, Rush Limbaugh!

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Date: 2008-08-13 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lingostarr.livejournal.com
I see your in the capital. in major cities as I have been told by canadians aren't really affected as much as people in sparely populated areas. people from country are still coming over here on a routine basis to get medical assistace where the govt health care has failed them. I know people aren't waiting years in cities like toronto and ottawa . windsor however is a little different. I know it is nt perfect but I think it does more harm than good. and also the healthcare system is totally abused here in usa. I dunno about canada

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Date: 2008-08-14 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brendand.livejournal.com
I thought you were in favor of big business.

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Date: 2008-08-13 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chucknoblet.livejournal.com
i'm at work ok i didn't have time

Date: 2008-08-13 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sourdick.livejournal.com
Dont fucking feed me an excuse.

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Date: 2008-08-13 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] of-big-shouldrs.livejournal.com
Okay, the photoshop and the caption are hysterical, thanks for making my morning!

Date: 2008-08-14 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chucknoblet.livejournal.com
But the post has blossomed into all-out war T_T

Date: 2008-08-13 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thafuzz.livejournal.com
Oh my God, I am never going one of Andy's parties ever again.

Date: 2008-08-13 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chucknoblet.livejournal.com
no don't worry, I only set people on fire at work.

Date: 2008-08-13 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thafuzz.livejournal.com
I wasn't talking about you, Nobby Bobby!

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Date: 2008-08-14 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lingostarr.livejournal.com
I like how you added the flame.

Date: 2008-08-14 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chucknoblet.livejournal.com
I felt strongly that the original was incomplete.

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